tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post7027709702087310613..comments2023-06-15T10:44:04.241+01:00Comments on Claws and Fists: A rethink on the role of Long FangsClaws and Fistshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01520310240629884669noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-63230907997988480242011-03-30T07:27:37.078+01:002011-03-30T07:27:37.078+01:00Extra armor isn't what it once was. With only ...Extra armor isn't what it once was. With only one stunned result on the table, it isn't really worth 15pts nowdays (4th ED I would have spent 30pts for it :-p)pdelairhttp://spacewolfgrey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-14410783114496285072011-03-29T21:55:20.957+01:002011-03-29T21:55:20.957+01:00The long fangs are wonderful for the split fire wh...The long fangs are wonderful for the split fire while you have it, that is a lot of potential suppression. <br /><br />When I use lascannons I tend to feel as though the missiles would have been a better buy.<br /><br />Also something to consider, the lascannon at 25 points, costs as much as a longfang (15) with a missile launcher (10). More is almost always better than marginally stronger. Making terminators take saves is almost as effective as negating them.bryce963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-92210468508733182222011-03-29T14:24:35.858+01:002011-03-29T14:24:35.858+01:00ap 2ap 2Steven Morrowhttp://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Morrow/725005531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-38444419798610001062011-03-29T14:13:05.164+01:002011-03-29T14:13:05.164+01:00I've learned pretty much the same thing over t...I've learned pretty much the same thing over time, Lascannons just aren't worth it anymore, certainly not worth the extra 15 points. In most cases you can pretty much ignore the Land Raider as a target (take it if you get a chance, but don't necessarily go after it) and wait for it to disgorge its cargo then take out those.<br /><br />Use the extra points for dozer-blades instead of extra armour. Move all your Rhinos through cover, you've got next to no chance of immobilising with re-rolls on dangerous terrain, and the cover will be much more useful than the extra armour.Andrew Goslinghttp://profiles.google.com/goosefaffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-11739335116745639832011-03-29T10:32:39.177+01:002011-03-29T10:32:39.177+01:00you are quite right, lascannons are rarely worth i...you are quite right, lascannons are rarely worth it in my opinion. The extra point of strength is largely meaningless against troops or even MC,s. against vehicles, even Land Raiders, S9 is only barely more effective than S8, and it certainly isn't worth the extra 15 points. <br /><br />That 30 points would be better used buying some more meltas or combi-meltas if you are worried about Rand Raiders, as this is the only reliable way to damage them.Atreides127noreply@blogger.com