tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post8681287853196810778..comments2023-06-15T10:44:04.241+01:00Comments on Claws and Fists: The Double RavenClaws and Fistshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01520310240629884669noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-89515685066681948572011-06-19T18:37:28.744+01:002011-06-19T18:37:28.744+01:00The reason I bring the Libby is actually for the H...The reason I bring the Libby is actually for the Hood (to shut down nasty enemy powers, of which there are more and more these days) and as an emergency 5+ cover save for when I can't go Flat Out or the enemy can ignore it (looking at you, Hydras). Unleash Rage is just there as a second power because it can help swing a fight just enough to be useful- I have tried Blood Lance and other powers in its place.<br /><br />With careful placement on the charge, the Libby's lack of an invuln doesn't really matter much, as you can just put him next to something nonthreatening (normal trooper) or that you know is going to be pulled as a casualty when your Lightning Claws strike home.abusepuppynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-64710308591992813972011-06-19T16:18:13.664+01:002011-06-19T16:18:13.664+01:00Cheers, I do usually use librarians but I find the...Cheers, I do usually use librarians but I find them to be a bit fragile in assault units, so I fancy trying the reclusiarch on for size. He's not as big a force multiplier but I reckon he's more handy in a scrap!<br /><br />Thanks for the comments I'll hive them some thought. I agree on the Baal being out of place and perhaps needing more DC to be truely scary.Fudalhttp://clawsandfists.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-53491702659926099252011-06-19T16:14:25.004+01:002011-06-19T16:14:25.004+01:00Thanks Bully, I was thinking about posting a singl...Thanks Bully, I was thinking about posting a single raven/land raider list later this week ... particularly as I don't have 2 ravens at the mo! How did your list fare?Fudalhttp://clawsandfists.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-13750059253439544522011-06-19T14:59:35.234+01:002011-06-19T14:59:35.234+01:00Liking the list fudal matey. I have a soft spot fo...Liking the list fudal matey. I have a soft spot for ravens - so liking this route your (and abuse puppy) are doing - lets get some reports up boys - see how they fare! <br /><br />I personally have only tried it a couple of times - running mephy and a talon dread - and then a raider full of terminators - it was fun but they do get shot down :/ even though both lists I faced had sweet FA in anti-tank lol.bullynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-8161125276874923062011-06-19T14:01:38.311+01:002011-06-19T14:01:38.311+01:00I agree about that Librarian. Overall, Librarians ...I agree about that Librarian. Overall, Librarians can generate a lot more damage for a unit over the course of the game than a Chaplain can (for Blood Angels) assuming the Librarian doesn't get 'hooded. They're nasty :)Sgt. Brisbanehttp://4shortened.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-59235007900711096822011-06-19T12:43:50.298+01:002011-06-19T12:43:50.298+01:00I would make a couple small changes, as I've b...I would make a couple small changes, as I've been experimenting with Stormraven lists recently and yours is pretty close to mine.<br /><br />First of all, I don't think the Baal Pred is a good fit for the list. Fine tank, but not necessarily what you want to be doing. Second, you REALLY want Extra Armor on the Stormravens- the first time you get Stunned and can't deliver your package, you will be a sad panda. Third, I think you want a couple more bodies in the Death Co, as right now they aren't terribly scary. I would also suggest dropping the Infernus Pistol from them, as it just doesn't help much.<br /><br />So add ~3 DCwould potentially give you enough to downgrade the Furioso to non-Libby, turn your Reclusiarch into Lemartes, and take a regular Librarian, which is my preferred setup. Having Wings on the Dread is nice, though, so you may want to stay as-is. Adding another ASM squad could be an option if you keep to only six in the DC squad, or you could take some Speeders (MM, natch, possibly with HF as well) to bring additional support. Upgrading the Razors to LasPlas is also an option, as having fire support to back you up is always nice. Last but not least another Priest wouldn't be a terrible idea to help out the Razor squads- in which case some fancy CCWs wouldn't be out of place, either.abusepuppynoreply@blogger.com