tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post8760264839094015773..comments2023-06-15T10:44:04.241+01:00Comments on Claws and Fists: The decline of high strengthClaws and Fistshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01520310240629884669noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-61753679551883373102011-05-16T20:51:37.011+01:002011-05-16T20:51:37.011+01:00As always in life, I think a mixture would probabl...As always in life, I think a mixture would probably work best. THe only things that require Lascannons or melta are really those big Necron things and Land Raiders. But if you do come up against 'em without Lascannon or melta, you're virtually powerless to stop them. <br /><br />I think you're lucky with the Wolves that you can split fire, so I'd be tempted to keep with your current set-up. The good thing about infantry-based heavy weapons is that they are always a low target priority (or perhaps that's just me, and possibly why I usually lose against Space Wolves!).Grazer_Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-43563257162417930592011-05-16T19:09:07.581+01:002011-05-16T19:09:07.581+01:00 S'funny...I'm adding more in lol! S'funny...I'm adding more in lol! Venerablenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-91776237745832477642011-05-16T18:38:53.920+01:002011-05-16T18:38:53.920+01:00I'm certainly not thinking about dropping my l...I'm certainly not thinking about dropping my long fangs in fact I am adding an extra 5 Missile Launchers, but I have taken all the las cannons out of my army, they just aren't worthwhile.Simonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-29803272116025685472011-05-16T18:33:37.945+01:002011-05-16T18:33:37.945+01:00 Useless is strong... I'm in agreement with yo... Useless is strong... I'm in agreement with you here... but the dread still has uses past popping transports and suppressing tanks..those puny combat squad marine squads fear it due to high accuracy and 2+ wound rolls, as do any units that are ID'd by them - DE, IG HWTs...and as FromTheFang says, whilst LF are better, Rifledreads are still wounding on 3's.. Venerablenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-91973130190981551662011-05-16T17:35:28.866+01:002011-05-16T17:35:28.866+01:00I wouldn't ditch long fangs for a dread either...I wouldn't ditch long fangs for a dread either. Once the transports are dead the fangs can fran troops. The dread however will be less useful once transports are down. Not to mention AP3 missiles bring handy against MCs.FromTheFangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-45949350935063789332011-05-16T17:30:44.456+01:002011-05-16T17:30:44.456+01:00 Just take both! Dreads and Fangs and loads of mel... Just take both! Dreads and Fangs and loads of melta...perfect! Got to say though, I don't feel this is something new nor a new trend developing...the autocannon has been a sweet weapon since 5th hit with the Vanilla marine book having the first Rifledread and of course the bloody hydra squadron in IG... Not new news! But obviously worth a reminder.. Venerablenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1640217576313519402.post-8303419402804738682011-05-16T16:47:26.488+01:002011-05-16T16:47:26.488+01:00 Suppression fire is important, but keep in mind y... Suppression fire is important, but keep in mind you DO need to destroy vehicles as well. Meltaguns (which SW can bring pretty easily) are great for that, of course. I wouldn't generally trade Long Fangs for a Rifleman Dread, though- LF are cheaper and hit harder. The increase in accuracy (and, to some degree, survivability) is generally not worth it.abusepuppynoreply@blogger.com