| Rune Priest |
| Chooser |
| Living Lightning |
| Murderous Hurricane |
| Rune Priest |
| Wolf Tooth Necklace |
| Chooser |
| Living Lightning |
| Jaws of the world wolf |
| Elites |
| Wolf Guard x3 |
| Power Fist x 3 |
| Combi weapons x 4 |
| Troops |
| Grey Hunters x 8 |
| Melta gun |
| Wolf Standard |
| Mark of the wulfen |
| Grey Hunters x 9 |
| Melta gun |
| Wolf Standard |
| Mark of the wulfen |
| Grey Hunters x 8 |
| Plasma Gun |
| Wolf Standard |
| Mark of the wulfen |
| Grey Hunters x 6 |
| Flamer |
| Wolf Standard |
| Mark of the wulfen |
| Rhino x 3 |
| Las Plas Razorback |
| Fast Attack |
| Land Speeder Storm |
| Heavy flamer |
| Multi Melta |
| Land Speeder Storm |
| Heavy flamer |
| Multi Melta |
| Heavy Support |
| Long Fangs x 6 |
| Missile Launchers x 4 |
| Lascannon |
| Long Fangs x 6 |
| Missile Launchers x 4 |
| Lascannon |
| Long Fangs x 6 |
| Missile Launchers x 4 |
| Lascannon |
Monday 28 March 2011
Going big or going home Simo style - reader contribution wanted please
So last night late on I got the email of the standings from this weekend and I came a disappointing 90th out of the 113 players there. To start with I sat there thinking, well if I had got the results I should have got I would have done much better but I then realised how stupid it was to think that. If I had have won my first game I would have been much higher in the second and then I certainly wouldn't have won my second by as big a margin as I did (If I did at all) and that would have had a knock on effect through the day so we need to ignore the ifs and buts and concentrate on the whys. Why didn't I do better, the answers are clear. Firstly, I still struggle with deployment, there are good articles out there and there are a lot of good players who I should be looking to for advice. No matter what the mission I generally deploy the same and its stupid. I need to think more. Secondly, placing of things like objectives. Only on one mission did I seriously think about where I was going to be placing objectives and that was one of the ones that I should have won. I need to think more like Darren who for one of the open war missions has figured out EXACTLY where to place objectives to get the best out of it, anal? Maybe. Smart? Definitely. Having played sports at high levels I was constantly reminded of small details being the difference, 40K is no different, unlike sport there is more luck involved at times so you have to be ready even more to take advantage of those small details. Thirdly, what I do with my list. I don't have dedicated jobs in my mind for my units. I don't have a unit that sits and grabs the objective, I don't have units who I always plan to move towards enemy armour. More and more I am noticing that games are won in the middle ground, unfortunately all I seem to do is sit, shoot as much as I can and hope that there isn't enough to take me when they get to me, not a good idea. Finally my list needs more synergy, I often leave my Thunderwolves isolated so they act as bullet magnets and eventually it tells. I'm stupid with it as well. Finally I started understanding that thunderwolves act as great cover for rhinos so why oh why haven't I been running them as such? So with that in mind I have come up with two lists both adapted from tinternet ones I have seen. In my current list anti infantry I have my grey hunters and thunderwolves principally and 4 Melta guns, Melta bombs 8 missiles and 2 Las cannons The first list being
In this list I have 4 anti infantry squads, 1 holding squad for objectives + speeders. I then have 4 meltas, 12 missiles and 4 lascannons The second being a thunderwolf list but with more a lord tooled up like mine minus the runic armour and the saga a rune priest like mine minus the runic armour Scouts with melta bombs 3 squads of 5 grey hunters 2 las plas one rhino 3 lots of 3 thunderwolves 2 storm shields, 1 power fist and one with nothing 3 lots of three missiles In this one there is certainly less long range fire power than in my second list but comparable to my first and there are certainly more targets for the opposition. As normal I really need constructive criticsm.
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At least you're being honest with yourself and that's more than most players ever do. I know well how a bad showing at tournament can really make you evaluate what you're doing and really, that's not a bad thing. The hard part I find it sticking to the resolutions, not falling back into the same old habits. It's one thing to identify it, it's another to actively deal with it.
ReplyDeleteI am working on a point by point reply, I will have it for you in a couple days.
ReplyDeleteWould you mind if I use it as a post on dissentingdice.blogspot.com?
A little inter-blog exchange.
You can get my email there.
Hey Michael,
ReplyDeleteAs you probably realised in our game, your list has too many upgrades eating up lots of points.
As a result, I had more units, more big guns and could just sit back and blast you apart while you HAD to come to me...and feed your Thunderwolves to my army. Bad times indeed.
Finally, Wolf Scouts are rubbish :)
Excellent post.
ReplyDeleteNo they aren't. :(
ReplyDeleteI assume those aren't actually Storm Speeders, given the layout. lol Standard on a 6-man unit seems a waste tbh - but I don't like it at the best of times.
ReplyDeleteWolf Claws > Fists - Dreads will munch you anyway.
IMO, 4 Missiles + a Las/Plas is a FAR better unit than 4+ the Lascannon guys. Especially since only having one Razor makes target priority easier for the foe.
It is hard to do but being evaluating is the only way anyone improves at anything. Its why I am always so appreciative of anyone who takes time to point out my mistakes after a game,
ReplyDeleteTornado's not storms, thanks for noticing. After reading a piece on supressing fire on 3++ I am now thinking about dropping the lascannons.
ReplyDeleteAs someone going through the process himself, I completely agree.
ReplyDeleteHi, its good that you are changing your thought process when making your list :), its all about cheap and cheerful units that can hurt as many tanks as possible with some counter attacking (that SW do SO we with).
ReplyDeleteBtw i cant remember if you said you did want a game on Thursday afternoon (before my game with gav).
Cheers
Martin
Yeah, I might have after school detention to run for half an hour so say 3.30?
ReplyDeleteYer thats fine with me :), see you there. I maybe trying out a similar BA list to my SMs.
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